tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18105492.post3307519894948312636..comments2023-03-17T07:18:49.868-04:00Comments on Issues & Views - The Blog: The fruits of callous indifferenceElizabeth Wrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06957503056880341197noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18105492.post-18978932546224407352009-11-23T20:50:58.648-05:002009-11-23T20:50:58.648-05:00Luke Fisher wrote:
There are many conservative ev...Luke Fisher wrote:<br /><i> There are many conservative evangelical Christians who disagree with the US's Israel policy, including myself. Of course any question of this policy brings accusations of anti-semitism, treason and liberalism. ... They will condemn pornography, homosexuality, adultery and lament the fact that America is the capital of these great sins. ... </i><br /><br />It is thanks to these obstinately pro-life evangelicals that Obama now sits in the White House, instead of Mitt Romney. Yet they rail against the Obama administration as the Great Satan, without ever acknowledging the role they played in helping to put that administration in place. When your religion is so intermingled and confused with your politics, there is little chance that you will be capable of compromising even among your own kind, in order to achieve the goals closest to your ideal. <br /><br />The neo-cons, who so cleverly exploit this evangelical obsession with Israel and God's Chosen People, could not have designed a more destructive means to undermine this country's original constitutional basis. One really can't blame the neo-cons. It is these gentile Christian-Zionists who wantonly are willing even to send their own sons to die in worthless wars against weaker people, for absolutely nothing having to do with America's welfare. What could be more depraved behavior than this? <br /><br />And when you look at the "hate crimes" business, legislation that so many of us fought against, these Christians, as you indicate, are against these laws, not because of how they trample constitutional principles overall, but only because they might interfere with their right to preach against homosexuality. It is only when the homosexuals were added to this bill, that these so-called conservatives bestirred themselves to take notice. They cared nothing about these outrageous, biased laws while young whites were being prosecuted for silly, minor infractions of the law, and being thrown into jail under "mandatory minimum" sentencing. <br /><br />As you say in your comment below, these Christians are silent about the years of U.S. meddling in the Middle East, as we have stoked unnecessary fires, by our partisan positions in that part of the world. The nature of their Christianity is totally perverted and makes clear that Christ's message is nowhere to be found among them. They have long since lost all credibility.Elizabeth Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06957503056880341197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18105492.post-13911487510142134332009-11-23T19:20:44.158-05:002009-11-23T19:20:44.158-05:00It seems to me that the evangelical Christian shou...It seems to me that the evangelical Christian should be the first to acknowledge and point these things out sadly, those like me, are drowned out by those Christian statists, Dobson, Colson, Hagee, and Co.<br /><br />Homosexual marriage and abortion are easy, juicy targets. Calling taxation theft, and calling out Statism as idolatry will make you persona non grata among the Conservative Christian crowd. <br /><br />Conservative Christians are the first to disparage the rise of Islamic terrorism and rightly so. But,any attempt to to look at the US role in decades of meddling and kindling this fire in the MidEast is ignored or dismissed as "blaming America first". <br /><br />I say that the Iraq War debacle and the shameless support of it by the Christian Right along with the deafening silence to the numerous lies of the Bush Administration in the run up to the war is a huge GAPING hole in the credibility of the American Christian Right.Luke Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06652043844204991418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18105492.post-43329615201110817442009-11-23T19:14:01.930-05:002009-11-23T19:14:01.930-05:00There are many conservative evangelical Christians...There are many conservative evangelical Christians who disagree with the US's Israel policy, including myself. Of course any question of this policy brings accusations of anti-semitism, treason and liberalism. <br /><br />Regarding the post, even in my church we NEVER hear of the outrageous acts of this country overseas. The pastor, while a bible-believing man, takes great care NOT to disparage American foreign policy. Most white-majority conservative churches are like this. They will condemn pornography, homosexuality, adultery and lament the fact that America is the capital of these great sins. They will many times condemn the acts of other dictators but rarely if ever will they criticize our foreign policy. They still worship the state, especially with a Republican in charge. <br /><br />I've noticed also that many of these conservative churches are starting to rebel against the "hate crime" legislation thinking (blaming Obama and the liberals) that it will bring an end to their tax exempt status should they preach against homosexuality. They will now "stand up" to any government attempts to censor them. They'll do that while they themselves censor anyone who brings up the Iraq War lies or questions taxation, or our policy towards Israel. These are strange days.Luke Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06652043844204991418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18105492.post-38893174402872745722009-11-13T15:33:48.177-05:002009-11-13T15:33:48.177-05:00lormarie asks:
... but could the close ties with ...lormarie asks:<br /><i> ... but could the close ties with Israel also have something to do with the problems the US is facing with terrorism? </i> <br /><br />Most definitely. But after all is said and done, whose responsibility is it for kowtowing to the wishes of a foreign country? Whose responsibility is it for sending American sons off to die for the welfare of a foreign power? Whether confronting the worshipful acolytes of Israel or the worshipful partisans of any other foreign country, the buck stops with Americans themselves. It is because we have established ourselves as such willing interventionists that we are so easily played with. Has there ever been a people more eager to be turned into tools than Americans? I don't think so. <br /><br />"Just tell me who to kill, and point me in the right direction!" This could be called the American mantra. The Israel clique is simply taking full advantage of this mindset.Elizabeth Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06957503056880341197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18105492.post-53236592433523785352009-11-13T12:24:39.251-05:002009-11-13T12:24:39.251-05:00Interventionist policies may be a part of the prob...Interventionist policies may be a part of the problem, but could the close ties with Israel also have something to do with the problems the US is facing with terrorism?lormariehttp://lormarie.comnoreply@blogger.com