It's not about "social justice," it's about power. It's not about doing what's morally right for the underdog, it's about power.
Wherever two or more groups live in proximity to one another, the men are going to jockey and compete for power. The bunch on the bottom of the social-economic ladder will seek ways to usurp power from those at the top. The prevailing conditions will be unique in every instance, but it's still the same old story.
The less powerful men will work at devising whatever tools or methods they can, to defeat the dominant men, who usually are the ones with greater weaponry and manpower. For the black man in this country, it was unrealistic to think he could succeed against his opponents' armaments, so other means had to be found. Beginning with a little help from his white Abolitionist friends, continuing onward with the help of his white Communist friends, and carried forward with the help of his white liberal friends, race, and the endless ramifications that could be derived from his degraded past history, became the weapon of choice.
The pose of anger and indignation over past humiliations must be nurtured, since this has proven to be the most effective club in the black man's arsenal. Whites, who have all but given away the store to blacks, in terms of the abandonment of constitutional principles, required nothing more than the threat of public disorder and mayhem. That blacks should be appeased, by granting the never-ending demands of their elites, was hardly questioned by the establishment whites.
Once appeasement became the norm (a Federal holiday for a preacher?), the die was cast for the future. Those whites and blacks who protested many of the strategies of the civil rights movement, because they understood where it was leading, were marginalized, and are still exiled to the fringes of decent society.
The initial reaction of blacks to Barack Obama, who seemed to come from nowhere, was a sense that power was being taken from the hands of "real" American blacks, those who could count many generations of black grandfathers and great grandfathers born here in the States. How could they bring themselves to support a semi-foreigner of dubious antecedents?
This visceral objection did not last long, however, as black men quickly realized the benefits that can accrue from the presence of a black in the White House, who owes his very station in life primarily to his racial group. It dawned on them that no matter which black man got there first, it will not only mean power over Whitey, but ownership of the most prestigious base from which to expand that power. How can it get any better than that?
Deborah Mathis, writing on BlackAmericaWeb, speaks for many blacks, when she obliquely references those "eyes on the prize." She can hardly control her exuberance at the prospect of a black becoming "the most powerful being on the entire planet," and declares, "This is the prize."
Obama's "Great Speech" makes it clear that if he wins the Presidency, he will encourage blacks to continue wielding the same weapon of power that has served them so well, that is, the victim's call for "social justice" and an "end to racism." Because the nation's institutions, for decades, have complied with the race game as established by blacks and their political compatriots, white men have nowhere to go -- except to continue the pretense that the conflict with black men is a moral issue, not one of power. It's embarrassing to admit that you've been complicit in your own dispossession.
Monday, April 14, 2008
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Why can't the conflict between blacks and whites (or black men and white men) be both a moral issue and a struggle for power? Many whites were and are motivated at least in part by a genuine moral concern for blacks - even for black men. That isn't embarassing. On the contrary, whites should be proud of the noble intentions that allowed them to be taken advantage of in this way.
In fact you're tacitly conceding that this history isn't purely about power: the "weapons" of abolitionism, communism, liberalism and racial victimhood that black men used to gain power could have no effect against white men unless white men have a real concern for those outside their own race. If white men didn't really care about morality and merely wanted power, they could have killed off all black men on earth a long time ago. What is more plausible is that black men, and other nonwhites, have no real concern with those outside their own group. Post-tribal morality seems to be a white thang that others just don't understand.
They should be proud of allowing themselves to be exploited, i.e., suckered?
I would say this sums up the mental condition of today's white man -- throughout the West. No other men would depict themselves in such a fashion, and express pride for what others would view as moral weakness, even moral degeneracy. I'd say it's more than embarrassing.
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You said:
"What is more plausible is that black men, and other nonwhites, have no real concern with those outside their own group. Post-tribal morality seems to be a white thang that others just don't understand."
Who would want to "understand" it, if it means the decimation of their own group and the inability to protect their own women from the predation of outsiders? Again, only weird white men, attempting to find ways to explain their abnormal behavior over these past few decades, would even try to get others to understand such aberrance.
The very fact that "others just don't understand" should give you a hint about normal human behavior, shouldn't it? Instead, you appear to be proud of the deviance that whites are caught up in, as if this proves that whites have taken the moral high ground. In the competition between men in the real world, no group works to elevate another group to its own detriment. While whites attempt to kill off their tribalism, all other tribes are strengthening their bonds. Whites may be in what you call the "post-tribal" stage, but no one else is.
They should not be proud of being exploited, but they should be proud of having noble moral feelings that allowed them to be exploited in this way. I'm certainly not proud of the position of weakness whites have put themselves in. But the fact that they put themselves in that position does show that they have "the moral high ground". It is an objective truth, with good philosophical credentials, that people of all races have moral value. (I'd say that of all sentient beings, in fact.) If non-whites don't see this, that just shows that they are less intelligent or less perceptive than whites. It doesn't show that there's something "deviant" in grasping this objective moral truth. (Well, it deviates from the _statistical norm_ of human behavior, but who cares about that? I don't want to be "normal" if that means lowering myself to the level of savages and primitives.)
Notice that when I said that a noble impulse in whites allowed them to be suckered, "allowed" does not mean "necessitated". Objective morality is one thing and how it's implemented is another. It is consistent to hold a post-tribal morality and to want all non-whites removed from the west. (In fact that's more or less what I would prefer myself.) You are conflating the two things.
Jay Z,
It's hard to know what to say to each of your comments. They grow more pitiful with each posting. You can continue being proud of your superior moral position, as your diminishing race becomes the laughingstock of the colored world.
I understand why a white person would feel the need to adhere to the positions you espouse. There is an obvious need for many whites to protect themselves from the truth of what has taken place during these last 30-40 years, as a clever corps of disaffected whites intruded the alien cultures of the coloreds into mainstream society, as a method to undermine the Establishment. The job is not yet completed, but you will probably live to see its completion. I wonder if you will then be blabbing about your moral superiority.
The world will certainly be worse off without the intelligence and innovative abilities of Anglo-Euros, but since whites seem determined to go to their demise, so be it.
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You wrote:
It is consistent to hold a post-tribal morality and to want all non-whites removed from the west. (In fact that's more or less what I would prefer myself.) You are conflating the two things.
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Oh, the fantasies we need to believe in! Of course, these two things are not possible. You either hang tough and deport aliens, and prevent new ones from coming in, without concern about their welfare in their own countries, or you weep over their fate and keep them close to your bosom. Only a strong desire for the continuation of a group's DNA (tribal!) offers any hope for that group's survival. As I said before, while whites attempt to kill off their tribalism, all other tribes are strengthening their bonds.
And why do you think that whites like you hold this "post-tribal morality," as you call it? Could it be due to the decades of ceaseless brainwashing, via the education system and the entertainment media, targeted especially to your white mind? Do you think this might have played a part?
Ms Wright is highly correct! It is more than embarrassing, it is downright degrading.
It's whites like Jay Z (assuming he/she is White and not a non-White masquerading as one), revelling in his/her dispossession and disenfranchisement, who shall have to be nutured both physically and socially - eventually.
Something I feel should be said and which I've not seen touched on anywhere as yet, is outlined below.
I think that several astute and very alert Black people can see what could possibly be coming at them further down the pipeline of time and perhaps not so distant a time ahead for that matter, either.
Because White people around the world are currently succumbing to brainwashing on a seemingly never-ending scale which is, of course, leading to their losing their place in history and contemporary society and who will consequently will be replaced by ruthless and guilt-free exclusively racecentric alien races who will, almost certainly, over time, I'd say 80 to 100 years from now, providing global civilization hasn't entirely collapsed or life on the planet having been dissolved in mushroom clouds in the meantime, will wrestle White bestowed power away from the Black ethny who, in turn, may well fall prey to enslavement once again, but this time at the hands of non-Black usurper races.
I love these conversation that try to open up the mystery surrounding the black vs. white power struggle within America. Whites gave up their moral high ground with the passage of the civil rights law, which in essence and usage was meant to sanction anti-white discrimination by the government, and promote minority interests over whites even at the cost of social destabilization and economic collapse. The housing crisis and its Fannie/Freddie minority loans is evidence, the overwhelming number far exceeding proportion to population of minorities working for the governments (local-state-federal) is even more proof. Its all about power, history shows us that no people sit still for very long, while their political elites replace them, the tea party is the proof of white awakening. The real question is what will be the end result?
The tea party movement will not call a spade a spade, they fear being called racist more then anything else, they lack the moral core to stand for race realism. So it leaves us with only one path, collapse, economically, socially, and politically. No doubt about it, when this nations economy goes down in flames over the next couple years, there will be nothing holding the various populations of self-interested races together. With NO job, no money, and many cities unable to respond to wide spread civil unrest, whites will fully awaken to the reality of their nation. A people who have had their moral core striped away, who have lost control of their government, who have lost everything, will do what anyone would expect them to do. I foresee a post collapse burning nation, full to the brim of a new white man, a man with no fear, and filled with hatred and looking for someone to kill.
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The tea party movement will not call a spade a spade, they fear being called racist more then anything else, they lack the moral core to stand for race realism.
You're so right about this. But it could have been predicted that this bunch would turn out to be just as feckless as all their predecessors.
No doubt about it, when this nations economy goes down in flames over the next couple years, there will be nothing holding the various populations of self-interested races together.
And when the economy collapses, and I don't see how that can fail, the resentment by blacks against whites will be even greater. Most blacks will probably believe that the Big White Daddy who took care of them for so long is simply engaging in some kind of conspiracy. After all, where did all the money go? It's all magic to them.
I foresee a post collapse burning nation, full to the brim of a new white man, a man with no fear, and filled with hatred and looking for someone to kill.
You might be right, but I see no evidence of this possibility, given whites 50 recent years of passivity. Would they even know how to fight back? They seem capable only of sending their sons off to fight strangers in strange lands, but can't lift a finger in defense here at home. On the domestic front, fear seems to paralyze them -- as we see from the Tea Party.
Of course, it could be that blacks have been exploited by others as well.
For example, All whites are not one single group in solidarity. There are natural subgroups who jockey for power.
Moreover, it's not over until the fat lady sings, and nature can throw a few curve-balls into the mix ...
If one looks at the French Revolution and the Taiping Rebellion it would seem that one set of elites have been made to pay for their treason against the masses. There are signs that it will go that way in the US because the elites do not understand the consequences of their continued grabbing of everything nor the dynamics of the situation.
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